QP: Directly quoting selectively from the PBO

The prime minister was present once again, while his deputy was busy testifying at the public inquiry. Pierre Poilievre led off in French, and he worried about deficits causing inflation (which they’re not), and demanded a course correction. Justin Trudeau reminded him that they were there for Canadians during the pandemic in order to ensure it was less severe than other places on the world, and that our economy bounced back faster, and insisted that the Conservatives only want to cut. Poilievre switched to English to denounce alleged comments from Seamus O’Regan, and demanded they cut the carbon price. Trudeau dismissed the concern as twisting the words of minister, and pointed to the PBO report on the carbon price and how it helps eight out of ten families. Poilievre picked up that report and cited several numbers out of context to “prove” his talking points. Trudeau, looking rather pleased, insisted that Poilievre did not look at the section about the rebates, and called him out about not caring about climate change. Poilievre insisted that the rebates were “tiny” and didn’t cover costs—and was called out by the Speaker for using the report as a prop—and Poilievre went on a tear about how the price is ineffective and hurts people. Trudeau disputed that the rebates were tiny, and noted the other benefits they have delivered, noting that Poilievre is only playing rhetorical games. Poilievre tried to bring up the cost of the hotel for the Queen’s funeral and insisted that the report proved that people are being hit hard. Trudeau countered that the report shows that the rebates compensate most families more than they pay, because fighting climate change is important while Poilievre only wants to nickel-and-dime them.

Alain Therrien led for the Bloc, and he returned to the alleged contradictions in the reports about the Xi Jinping confrontation and demanded a return to the per-vote subsidy to prevent foreign funding. Trudeau clapped back that the Bloc only want the subsidy because they can’t raise money on their own. Therrien was incensed, and insisted that China was exploiting this vulnerability, and Trudeau countered that political financing is robust and transparent, and pointed out that the media are invited to his fundraising events, and encouraged other parties to do the same.

Jagmeet Singh rose for the NDP, and decried the crisis in emergency rooms and demanded the federal government show up. Trudeau took exception to the insinuation he doesn’t care about children, and pointed out that they have transferred billions to provinces and are sitting down with provinces. Singh switched to French to repeat the question and got the same response.

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QP: A lacklustre showdown on Chinese interference allegations

The prime minister was present for the first time in over a week, but curiously, not every leader was. Pierre Poilievre led off in French, as he usually does, and he quoted the prime minister in saying that state actors from elsewhere act aggressively toward our institutions and democracy, and he wondered what kinds of aggressive games they are playing. Trudeau said that whether it’s Russian disinformation on Ukraine, or Chinese interference in the diaspora or the media, or the Iranian government putting pressure on Canadians of Iranian origin, they always remain vigilance. Poilievre switched to English to wonder if the prime minister was briefed on any Chinese interference activities in the country. Trudeau remarked that he is regularly briefed by intelligence and security experts on threats to Canada, whether it’s cyber threats or interference in diaspora communities or online disinformation, there are a range of threats out there that our security agencies are vigilant against. Poilievre wondered what specific interference was referring to when he raised concerns with Xi Jinping, and Trudeau said that there are consistent engagements by Chinese officials into Canadian communities, such as the reports on the illicit “police station,” which they continue to be concerned about. Poilievre then changed topics to the carbon price, worrying about heating costs doubling in some communities and deployed his “triple, triple, triple” ear worm, concern trolled that the implementation of the federal price in three more Atlantic provinces was just delaying damage, and demanded the price be scrapped entirely. Trudeau reminded him that the price returns more money to most households, so it not only took climate action but it helped them as well, then called out the misinformation and disinformation that was being spread. Poilievre insisted that the PBO—whom he pointed out that the PM appointed—indicated otherwise (he didn’t), and demanded it be scrapped. Trudeau countered that the PBO did indeed prove that most households get more money back,  and decried the disinformation. 

Alain Therrien led for the Bloc, and he returned to the allegations of Chinese interference in elections, and wanted clarity and the names of those allegedly funded. Trudeau took a script to insist that they had a non-partisan committee to assess threats to electoral integrity and they established that there was no compromise in either 2019 or 2021, as well as the Chief Electoral Officer didn’t see any interference, and he worried about creating false concerns. Therrien insisted he was confused, and wondered if the PM went after Xi Jinping on the basis of a newspaper article alone, and Trudeau insisted that every briefing that he has had about security or intelligence and those monitoring elections, that the integrity of elections were not called into question.

Jagmeet Singh got up, and in French, made up an allegation that wages were being blamed for inflation (they’re not), and demanded that corporate greed be tackled. Trudeau recited the well-worn talking points about raising taxes on the one percent and lowering them on the Middle Class™, stopped sending child benefit cheques to millionaires, and they raised corporate taxes and instituted their recovery dividend. Singh switched to English to decry rising interest rates, insisted that he was respecting the Bank of Canada but demanded the government do more about inflation using fiscal policy instead of monetary policy (which was entirely economically illiterate). Trudeau recited that they stepped up with supports like the doubled GST credit, the rental supports, or dental care for children (as Peter Julian kept shouting “Thanks to the NDP!”)

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QP: Concern about Atlantic Canada’s incoming federal carbon price

Though the prime minister was in town, while his deputy was not, neither were present in QP, either in person or virtually. Pierre Poileivre led off in French, and he led off with a complete misquote about what the prime minister said about interest rates, blamed the government for the Bank of Canada’s rate hikes, and demand the government stop its so-called “inflationary policies” that he said were pushing people to bankruptcy. Randy Boissonnault noted that there is an affordability crisis world-wide, which was why the government has a plan, and exhorted the Conservatives to support the budget bill when it was up for a vote after QP. Poilievre switched to English to decry that three Atlantic Canadian provinces will be subject to the federal carbon price backstop on July 1st, insisted that 40 percent of them are already living in energy poverty, and deployed his “triple, triple, triple” ear worm to demand that the government scrap its carbon price. Steven Guilbeault noted that there is no increase in carbon prices before July 1st, not during the winter, and that those three provinces will start receiving their climate rebates before that happened. Poilievre declared that the carbon price hasn’t worked because no province that has imposed it has met their targets (not entirely true), lamented the low ranking of our climate action, falsely claimed that 60 percent of people pay more in carbon prices than they get back, and again demanded the price be scrapped. Guilbeault recited that it was a fact that eight of ten households will get more back than they pay, and demanded the Conservatives release their own climate plan. Andrew Scheer got up to take over, and repeated same list of the falsehoods about the carbon price, demanded the government accept the science, and dropped the “not an environmental plan but a tax plan” point (take a drink!) Guilbeault got up to poke back, citing that the Conservatives don’t believe in science, and offered up the proof that when they were in government, their minister of science didn’t even believe in evolution, and it was a fact that emissions did decline in 2019 and 2020. Scheer stood back up and got breathier as he listed a number of false talking points about the carbon price and the environmental record of the government, and decried that three more provinces would be subjected to the federal price. Guilbeault recited that they have a great climate plan, unlike the Conservatives, because they had to play catch-up after ten years of Conservative inaction.

Alain Therrien led for the Bloc, and he accused the government of being reckless with their response to the news reports about alleged foreign interference in the 2019 election from China. Pam Damoff got up and read that the talking points about this being a serious issue and they ensured the election was free and fair. Therrien insisted that the issue was not the integrity of that election, it was the lack of transparency from the government on this. Damoff read that they established the independent panel and insisted that they have their eyes wide open, which is why they passed laws to close loopholes on foreign funding.

Alexandre Boulerice rose for the NDP, and he recited the party’s angry talking points about grocery chain CEOs. Randy Boissonnault recited that the issue of food price inflation is global but they have tasked the Competition Bureau with ensuring there was no price gouging. Blake Desjarlais took over in English to cite the reports that Loblaws was firing the unionised workers in their Edmonton warehouse—which is not a federal issue—and Andy Fillmore repeated Boissonnault’s talking points in English. 

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QP: Claims that carbon prices are the problem

While the prime minster returned from his trip abroad in the wee hours, neither he nor his deputy were present for QP today. Pierre Poilievre led off in French, and he lamented that Canada is 58 out of 63 countries when it comes to reducing GHG emissions, that the current government has missed every emissions reduction target (not really true and the government Poilievre was a member of sabotaged any effort at reductions), then complained that the government was carrying on with their plan to “triple” the carbon price (it triples by 2030), and demanded a better way to fight climate change. Jonathan Wilkinson reminded him that Canada has one of the most detailed plans to fight climate change and that we will hit our targets to reduce emissions by 2030, while still ensuring that life is affordable. Poilievre switched to English to repeat his needling, and dismissed the carbon price as a “tax” that is being “triple, triple, tripled” (it’s not a tax and it’s not tripling anytime soon), and demanded the government get rid of the price. Wilkinson repeated that they have made enormous progress, started from a place where the Conservatives spent a decade doing nothing. After the Speaker interrupted and gently chided MPs to stop shouting, Wilkinson started his answer over again, ending on his reminder that eight out of ten people get more money back than they pay in carbon prices, and raised the announcement made earlier in the morning to help more people transition to heat pumps. Poilievre falsely claimed that by focusing on technology and not “taxes” that the Conservatives reduced emissions (blatantly untrue, unless he is referring to emissions intensity in the oil sands, which didn’t see the intensity reductions that they like to claim), and then repeated his claim that the carbon price is the real problem. Wilkinson needled Poilievre in return, saying that his lament about taxes is ironic considering that Poilievre spent his entire working life being paid by the taxpayer where as Wilkinson spent twenty years in the clean tech sector, and then stated that the carbon price is not the whole climate plan, it’s part of a plan that also includes regulation and investment, and ended that fighting climate change can generate prosperity if you know what you’re doing. Poilievre got back up to repeat his same talking points about missed targets and was concerned about Atlantic Canadians facing a doubled heating bill (which has precious little to do with carbon prices), and Lawrence MacAulay stood up, somewhat surprisingly, to decry that they had a prime example of climate devastation with Hurricane Fiona, and that they need to continue to address climate change like the government is doing. Poilievre fell back on the canard that the carbon price has failed to reduce emissions, and dismissed the plan to help people transition to heat pumps. This time Ginette Petitpas Taylor got up, and was “stunned” by the comments from the other side, given that she saw the devastation of Hurricane Fiona, pointed to a school in PEI whose roof was blown off completely, which is why the government has a plan.

Alain Therrien led for the Bloc, and he worried about the confrontation with Xi Jinping and the allegations of Chinese interference in the 2019 election and the fact that the prime minister later said he wasn’t briefed on the matter, insinuating that the prime minister wasn’t honest with the media about the briefing. Marco Mendicino said that they had independent panels who determined there was no foreign interference, and they already passed interference legislation. Therrien worried that the confrontation was diplomatic incompetence or that the government is hiding something and wondered which it was. Mendicino praised national security agencies for their work and wanted support for their cyber-security legislation. 

Peter Julian rose for the NDP, and in French, he drained about corporate profits and accused the government of blaming workers’ wages instead of corporate greed for inflation (which is nonsense). Randy Boissonneault listed ways that the government is making big businesses pay their fair share. Heather McPherson repeated the question in English, and Andy Fillmore read the English response of the same response.

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QP: Oops, wrong script

The prime minister was in Bangkok for the APEC summit, while his deputy was present for a fourth showdown with Pierre Poilievre in a row. Poilievre led off in French, he raised the story that CSIS warned the prime minister ten months ago of attempted Chinese interference in the 2019 election, and switched to English to repeat the allegation and wondered if this was raised with the Chief Electoral Officer. In French, Chrystia Freeland says they know that there are dictators trying to undermine democracies, and she had experience with the Soviet Union so she has no illusions, and that national security agencies are monitoring threats. Poilievre then raised the COP27 conference, trotted out his tired line that the government doesn’t have a climate plan but a tax plan (*drink!*) and given that a report ranks Canada out of 63 countries on their climate performance, then recited his “triple, triple, triple” ear worm, and demanded the government cancel the carbon price and come up with a “real” climate plan (and it’s hard to believe that he didn’t choke on number the utter disingenuous things said in those thirty seconds). Freeland said that Canadians know that the Conservatives don’t have a plan to tackle climate change, which means he doesn’t have a plan to grow the economy, because our trading partners are all taking serious climate action, and then pointed to the investments in the green transition. Poilievre insisted that those allies and trading partners have better climate performance while Canada is merely raising “taxes” on heating that people need (never mind that the world price of oil has more to do with those increases than carbon pricing). Freeland responded that putting a price on carbon is the most effective way to fight climate change, and that Preston Manning recognised this, and that the carbon price is revenue neutral. Poilievre disputed the revenue neutrality based on a false reading of a PBO report and demanded the government waive carbon prices to make LNG plants economical, and Freeland noted that they recognise that LNG is an important transition fuel, but all projects need to pass assessments and get First Nations approval. Poilievre insisted that the former government had a real environmental assssment plan (they didn’t), and that these projects give benefits to First Nations and quoted a single Indigenous grandmother to prove his point. Freeland responded with an anecdote from a crypto bro who said that central banks are slavery and need to be burned down and that Poilievre appeared on his YouTube channel to say that he had good ideas, and she wanted an apology for that.

Yves-François Blanchet led for the Bloc, and he lamented that provinces weren’t getting enough healthcare dollars from the federal government, and Freeland told him she just spoke with Quebec’s finance minister and pointed out how much higher transfers are this year. Blanchet insisted that the federal government doesn’t have any expertise and just demanded money, and Freeland repeated that the transfer increased 4.2 percent this year, plus other funds to help with delays and diagnoses.

Peter Julian led for the NDP, and in French, he decried wait times in ERs, as though this was something the federal government has any control over. Freeland reiterated that they are increasing transfers to provinces already this year, and that the increasing funding must come with results. Lindsay Mathyssen repeated the concern in English, but with a London, Ontario, spin and Freeland repeated her response.

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QP: Theatrical accusations of breaking Canada

With the PM still in Bali, his deputy was present, though it was unlikely that she was going to take on the usual proto-PMQ practice of the PM taking every Wednesday question. Pierre Poilievre led off in French, and he wondered why children in other countries could get access to pain medications but not Canada, and accused the government of inaction when there were warning signs in April. Freeland said that as a mother she understood the stress that families were going through, which was why the government announced a supply of additional medications from abroad. Poilievre repeated the question in English, with the added question of what date the Cabinet was aware of the shortages, but Freeland repeated her same response in her slow and deliberate style as she read the script in front of her. Poilievre turns back to French, somewhat unusually, and raised the inflation numbers that were released earlier, and blamed it on the so-called “triple, triple, triple” carbon price, which is of course not accurate. Freeland started off in English, saying that the only thing that has tripled was our Aaa credit rating, before switching to French to note how inflation stabilised. Poilievre was back in English to be dismissive, noted that heating oil costs were up over 70 percent in Newfoundland and Labrador, and gave his usual demands. Freeland noted that the people who are broke are those who followed Poilievre’s advice about crypto. Poilievre spouted a bunch of nonsense about the threat of deflation (which was real, which could have spiralled into a depression), and made some jibes about Disney+. Freeland responded that Poilievre lives in a nineteen-room mansion with a chef and a driver, and that while this is fine for the leader of the opposition, he was irresponsible in advising people to invest in crypto. 

Alain Therrien led for the Bloc, raised the federal debt position relative to the provinces, and demanded higher transfers to provinces. Freeland noted that transfers had increased by 4.8 this year, and that any other increased funding must come with accountability. Therrien insisted that people were suffering and blamed the federal government for under-funding the system, and Freeland agreed that there were real challenges in the system, and that Quebec got $10.1 billion this year, which was the 4.8 percent increase.

Peter Julian rose for the NDP in French, and denounced grocery CEOs and the Bank of Canada while demanding those grocery chains pay more taxes. Freeland read the approved lines about increasing corporate taxes, the recovery dividend, and luxury taxes. Daniel Blaikie took over in English to demand government intervention in the way of windfall taxes, and Freeland repeated the same points in English.

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QP: Is it federal hostage-taking, or provincial?

As Trudeau was at the G20 summit in Bali, his deputy was present for QP once again. Pierre Poilievre led off in French, as he usually does, and he decried the crisis of families trying to pay for home heating, citing that Acadians on the East Coast and Franco-Ontarians in Northern Ontario use diesel (because he wanted to address francophones not in Quebec as Quebec has a cap-and-trade system), which are being impacted by the so-called “triple, triple, triple” carbon price (which isn’t not until 2030). Chrystia Freeland insisted that her economic plan was responsible and caring at the same time, such as doubling the GST credit and the rental support for low-income people. Poilievre switched to English to denounce that Freeland boasted about not needing a car because she lives in downtown Toronto, and denounced the supposed tripling of the carbon price. Freeland responded that she has probably driven more pick-up trucks than Poilievre has, and began laying into his advice about investing in crypto, and demanded he apologies to Canadians. Poilievre decried $3/litre diesel, and what that will cost people who need it for heating, and demanded the carbon price be cancelled. Freeland insisted that the Conservatives only want to eviscerate EI, pensions, making polluting free, and to claw back climate incentive cheques, or depriving low-income people of rental supports or dental care. Poilievre retorted “false, false, false, false,” and then misquoted the PBO’s report on carbon prices, and repeated his demand to cancel the price. Freeland took the opportunity to read a script about what the Conservatives are “blocking” in the budget implementation bill. Poilievre insisted that they have a majority with the NDP, so they can do what they like, then blamed them for rising house prices before repeating his “triple” ear worm. Freeland slowly recited that they have a plan that is compassionate and fiscally responsible, citing items like ending interest on student loans and the changes to the Canada Worker Benefit.

Alain Therrien led for the Bloc, and accused the government of encouraging the anglicisation of Quebec through their official languages bill. Freeland said that while she is an anglophone, the government considers French a priority, supporting them to keep speaking French on an English continent. Therrien railed that companies like Air Canada and VIA Rail continue to flout their obligations and are trying to avoid Quebec’s language laws, and Freeland insisted that they do understand how hard it is to protect the French language but they support doing so.

Jagmeet Singh rose for the NDP, and in French, he raised the crisis in emergency rooms, and accuse the federal government of inaction, as though it was their jurisdiction to do so. Freeland insisted that she was sure that every member in the Chamber understand how precious children are, and insisted that they are a priority, and that as for healthcare, they have are increasing transfers by eight percent. Singh repeated the question in English and got the same answer.

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QP: Disney+ versus crypto outrage

While the PM had landed in Bali for the G20 meeting, his deputy was present for Question Period back in Ottawa. Pierre Poilievre led off in French, and he worried about children not getting medication, and the report that only Canada is lacking these medications out of 19 countries that one company distributes to. Jean-Yves Duclos noted that the supply has increased, and that hours ago, they announced that they signed a deal with a company to import several months’ supply of children analgesics. Poilievre repeated the question in English, and Duclos repeated his answer in English. Poilievre then misquoted the governor of the Bank of Canada on the supposed “domestic” source of inflation (which is not what he said—the inflationary pressures are largely domestic now because they have metastasised through the economy, not because they were caused by local factors) and then wholly made up him saying that they need to cut wages and increase unemployment (which is entirely false), and demanded to know if the government agrees. Chrystia Freeland praised their “compassionate” and “fiscally responsible” plan, and quoted the Globe and Mail to bolster her cause. Poilievre raised the cost of diesel and blamed that on food-price inflation (it’s not the cause), and decried that families in “oil-heated communities” couldn’t cut their subscriptions to Disney+ to heat their homes, again raising the fake outrage that dominated the country last week, before demanding they cut the carbon price. Freeland noted that everyone in this Chamber is privileged, and that she recognises how privileged her family is, which is why they focused the government’s finite resources on those who need it. Poilievre demanded that the Liberals end their plan to “triple, triple, triple” their carbon price, and this time Fraser got up to take exception to the line about oil-heated communities because his province has seen the cost of climate inaction and worse is yet to come, and after the Speaker had to quiet the Chamber down, Fraser said that perhaps they should turn on the microphones of the backbenches to showcase their climate denialism.

Alain Therrien led for the Bloc, and he decried the notion that the conversation on health transfers was futile as provinces we “rolling in money,” and demanded they talk to emergency room doctors. Duclos insisted that they should be discussing actions that should be taken. Therrien decried that the “pontificators” in government were unable to do things like get passports out, so how could they manage healthcare (which no one is asking). Pablo Rodriguez got up and chirped about the Bloc’s recent convention and how their only priority was independence and not helping people. 

Peter Julian rose for the NDP, and in French, decried the overloaded emergency rooms and demanded that the federal do something about it, as though it were their jurisdiction. Duclos listed the stressors on the system and called on people to mask and vaccinate. Don Davies took over in English, raised drug shortages and demanded a plan, to which Duclos reminded him that they did announce an emergency importation of analgesics as domestic production ramps up. 

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QP: It’s hogwash and poppycock

In advance of the Fall Economic Statement, neither the prime minister nor his deputy were present, and neither was Pierre Poilievre, for a change. That left Jasraj Hallan to lead off, and declared the Statement to be the “last chance” to stop tax increases and inflationary spending (of which there are no actual taxes being raised for ordinary Canadians, nor is the spending actually inflationary). He insisted that people are paying more in taxes than ever before (not sure that’s actually true), and railed about the so-called “Liberal inflation tax,” and demanded the prime minister stop spending. Randy Boissonnault reminded him that the plan would be released in two hours, but that they could rely on the government to do what is right, and supporting Canadians who need it. Hallan insisted the government’s “greed knows no bounds” and decried rising interest rates because of the “Liberal inflation tax” and demanded the government stop spending. Boissonnault reminded him that they reduced taxes on Canadians five times, and that the Conservatives voted against it every time. Hallan repeated his demand a third time, to which Boissonnault listed that the Conservative plan is to cut benefits, EI, climate incentives, child care, and so on. Pierre Paul-Hus took over in French, and declared that the government is in no hurry to reduce inflation because that would reduce its revenues (which doesn’t actually match what the government is doing and is completely misleading), and demanded no new taxes, and Boissonnault said the statement was both economically false and cruel, as helping Canadians who need it is not inflationary. Paul-Hus misquoted Mark Carney about inflation and blamed it on “irresponsible spending” (which, once again, is not true), and Boissonnault quoted former Bank of Canada governor Stephen Poloz in saying that the government’s measures stopped a deflationary spiral, while the Conservatives only want to cut, cut, cut.

Yves-François Blanchet led for the Bloc, and he worried about the announced immigration targets, insisting that Quebec cannot handle that many and wanted a slowdown. Sean Fraser stated that the Quebec doesn’t set targets, the federal government does, and we need immigration. Blanchet insisted that this was about trying to weaken the Quebec nation and drown them out, to which Pablo Rodriguez needled that the Bloc was so concerned about percentages when these are about men, women and children.

Alexandre Boulerice rose for the NDP, and in French, he cited a report stating that the government was losing $30 billion per year to tax evasion and the Irving family in particular was  a prime offender. Diane Lebouthillier said that those who evaded taxes would get a knock on the door from the CRA. Daniel Blaikie then worried about Loblaws’ profits, demanding that the chains “pay what they owe,” and a windfall profit tax, to which Boissonnault listed the actions they have taken around raising income taxes and investments in the CRA to combat evasion.

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QP: Getting shouty to build their narratives

It being Wednesday, the benches were largely full, and the prime minister was present for his designated day to answer everything. Pierre Poilievre led off partly in French, and worried about the shortage of children’s Tylenol, and switched to English halfway through to reiterate. Justin Trudeau started talking about Health Canada taking action and there were challenges to supply chains around the world, but was shouted down and needed to reiterate his answer when it quieted down. Poilievre then moved onto his bog standard inflationary nonsense and “triple, triple, triple” ear worm, and demanded that tomorrow’s fiscal update have a spending freeze. Trudeau noted that they have supports for Canadians as the GST rebate comes out on days, and other supports are on the way. Poilievre repeated his question in French, and Trudeau noted that the Conservatives only want austerity and cuts. Poilievre returned to English to claim only he was protecting pensions from inflation, and repeated his demand to cap spending and taxes. Trudeau called Conservatives cold-hearted if they considered dental care for children to be pouring fuel on the inflationary fire. Poilievre tried to turn over the “cold-hearted” accusation with his tripling nonsense, to which Trudeau reiterated that in spite of Conservative misinformation and disinformation, the climate rebates give more back to most Canadians than they pay.

Yves-François Blanchet led for the Bloc, and he accused the federal government of starving the healthcare system (which is utter bunkum), and wanted more funding without conditions. Trudeau reminded him that Quebeckers and Canadians expect results from the system, but if systems don’t work as expected, they want to work with provinces to ensure that more money gets better results. Blanchet accused the federal government of micromanaging, and Trudeau reiterate that the systems are not working, which is why they are trying to get provinces onside to improve things for that money.

Jagmeet Singh rose for the NDP, and he attacked Doug Ford’s preemptive use of the Notwithstanding Clause, and demanded the prime minster do something about it. Trudeau denounced Ford’s actions, and called out Poilievre for not denouncing it. Singh repeated the question in French, and got the same answer.

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